Edit: Dec 24 because the flaggers are running amok again. It’s a shame that even at Christmas, there are still people who just can’t stop themselves from behaving badly.
'*****************************
First, I’d like to express a heartfelt “thank you” to everyone who offered their support through words, private messages, and the use of the #FreeRacingRox tag while I was locked away in forum jail.
I hope (but doubt) this show of support will serve as a lesson to the “Mods” that people can stand together respectfully even when they disagree or don’t like each other. Not everyone who supported me is my close friend, but you don’t have to be friends to have respect, or to stand together against injustice.
You must all be curious what happened, so here it is.
As most of you saw, my exasperation with the Mods hit its limit and I basically called them liars (in big bold letters ) here:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/for-the-love-of-cookies-do-not-launch-the-new-forum-in-the-4th-quarter/1309475/19
I believe my exact words (using the h1 tag for emphasis) were ‘Please stop lying
to us!’ but that part of my post seems to be gone now. Interestingly, the rest of my post remains.
My frustration had obviously boiled over with the Mods’ repeated false, misleading, and deceptive posting activity. The way I expressed that frustration was over the top and so I apologized for it.
The gist of what I was given as the reason for my month-long suspension was my ongoing criticism of the Mods and what they post.
My take on that, as you might imagine, is that if they didn’t post stuff that was deserving of criticism, they wouldn’t be getting criticized. It seems obvious.
My position has always been that we should ALL be working together toward a common goal - helping the users who come to the forums seeking help with their problems.
It’s also my position that the Mods as a group, at least half the time, fail miserably at this, and more often than not seem to have little interest in working with us and frequently actively work against us. If it truly is their goal to help, then they should want to be aware of when they fail, and try to do better.
Instead, they simply shut down the people who shine a spotlight on their failures or question what they do and why they do it. Believing perhaps, that if no one points it out, no one will notice it.
Until/unless the Mods learn what is needed from them here (as opposed to what they want to provide), I will continue to call them out for their failings.
I will NOT however, publicly help forum users any longer and the responsibility for this lies squarely on the Mods’ shoulders. The group of them that decided to suspend me are fully responsible for the fact that no sellers will have forum access to my knowledge or expertise any longer.
When you need help in areas I specialize in, and can no longer get it - blame your Mods. Next time you see them talk about what a great job they do and how they are here to support you, remember this
Of course, I’m nothing special, but I do have specialized knowledge in areas such as shipping template set-up, shipping automation, how Buy Shipping functions, proper brand authorization, and IP complaints. I’m not the only one with this knowledge, of course, but the Mods have driven many of us away, not only through unjust suspensions but with the entire new NSFE forums that nobody (except perhaps them) wants.
Now I want to be clear. There are some Mods who deserve and have earned my respect. It’s a short list.
I’ve had PM exchanges with @CR_Amazon (you’re still, and always will be awesome), @KJ_Amazon, and @Gary_Amazon and each has earned my admiration and respect.
I’ve never had direct contact with Desi but have developed respect for him through his posting activity. Unlike many of the Mods, he writes his own posts, interprets users’ questions correctly, and provides guidance that’s relevant to the issue at hand. for Desi.
A shout out to @Charles_Amazon as well for following Desi’s example in many of his recent posts.
My feelings are mixed on the rest of them. Some have lost my respect entirely as a result of our PM conversations, others I don’t know enough to form an opinion.
One Mod-related issue that does need to be explicity addressed from the time of my suspension is here -
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/a-note-on-forums-guidelines/1325059/41
I found this post by Mod Kelly suggesting they were ‘protecting my privacy’ to be offensive and insulting.
To be crystal clear -
I found it particularly insulting that they had the nerve to add “Thank you for your understanding and respect of your fellow seller community.” when it was Kelly themselves, who was lacking respect for me by making this post insinuating they were speaking on my behalf. They were NOT. It was particularly distressing since I had no ability to counter their invalid claims so they were able to say whatever they liked and I couldn’t post anything to counter it. I did raise the issue with another Mod (supposedly a supervisor) but it was not addressed.
To say the least, I felt disrespected, dismissed, and mistreated - both by the post itself and the dismissal of my objection to it.
Continuing on the subject of the Mods -
Always take anything that comes from Amazon with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. Not everyone you encounter is the person they seem to be or acting with personal integrity.
Some interesting things I observed while I was forced to sit out include:
In summary, what I came away from this experience with is that -
The Amazon Mods do not deserve my support.
Therefore, I will no longer be publicly helping any users in these forums and you can blame your “Community Managers”.
For those sellers who do plan to continue participating, I encourage you to remember, and continue to share, my message:
Best of luck to everyone, happy holidays to you all, and thank you again for all of your support. It’s a shame the Mods didn’t listen to your voices.
Edit: Dec 24 because the flaggers are running amok again. It’s a shame that even at Christmas, there are still people who just can’t stop themselves from behaving badly.
'*****************************
First, I’d like to express a heartfelt “thank you” to everyone who offered their support through words, private messages, and the use of the #FreeRacingRox tag while I was locked away in forum jail.
I hope (but doubt) this show of support will serve as a lesson to the “Mods” that people can stand together respectfully even when they disagree or don’t like each other. Not everyone who supported me is my close friend, but you don’t have to be friends to have respect, or to stand together against injustice.
You must all be curious what happened, so here it is.
As most of you saw, my exasperation with the Mods hit its limit and I basically called them liars (in big bold letters ) here:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/for-the-love-of-cookies-do-not-launch-the-new-forum-in-the-4th-quarter/1309475/19
I believe my exact words (using the h1 tag for emphasis) were ‘Please stop lying
to us!’ but that part of my post seems to be gone now. Interestingly, the rest of my post remains.
My frustration had obviously boiled over with the Mods’ repeated false, misleading, and deceptive posting activity. The way I expressed that frustration was over the top and so I apologized for it.
The gist of what I was given as the reason for my month-long suspension was my ongoing criticism of the Mods and what they post.
My take on that, as you might imagine, is that if they didn’t post stuff that was deserving of criticism, they wouldn’t be getting criticized. It seems obvious.
My position has always been that we should ALL be working together toward a common goal - helping the users who come to the forums seeking help with their problems.
It’s also my position that the Mods as a group, at least half the time, fail miserably at this, and more often than not seem to have little interest in working with us and frequently actively work against us. If it truly is their goal to help, then they should want to be aware of when they fail, and try to do better.
Instead, they simply shut down the people who shine a spotlight on their failures or question what they do and why they do it. Believing perhaps, that if no one points it out, no one will notice it.
Until/unless the Mods learn what is needed from them here (as opposed to what they want to provide), I will continue to call them out for their failings.
I will NOT however, publicly help forum users any longer and the responsibility for this lies squarely on the Mods’ shoulders. The group of them that decided to suspend me are fully responsible for the fact that no sellers will have forum access to my knowledge or expertise any longer.
When you need help in areas I specialize in, and can no longer get it - blame your Mods. Next time you see them talk about what a great job they do and how they are here to support you, remember this
Of course, I’m nothing special, but I do have specialized knowledge in areas such as shipping template set-up, shipping automation, how Buy Shipping functions, proper brand authorization, and IP complaints. I’m not the only one with this knowledge, of course, but the Mods have driven many of us away, not only through unjust suspensions but with the entire new NSFE forums that nobody (except perhaps them) wants.
Now I want to be clear. There are some Mods who deserve and have earned my respect. It’s a short list.
I’ve had PM exchanges with @CR_Amazon (you’re still, and always will be awesome), @KJ_Amazon, and @Gary_Amazon and each has earned my admiration and respect.
I’ve never had direct contact with Desi but have developed respect for him through his posting activity. Unlike many of the Mods, he writes his own posts, interprets users’ questions correctly, and provides guidance that’s relevant to the issue at hand. for Desi.
A shout out to @Charles_Amazon as well for following Desi’s example in many of his recent posts.
My feelings are mixed on the rest of them. Some have lost my respect entirely as a result of our PM conversations, others I don’t know enough to form an opinion.
One Mod-related issue that does need to be explicity addressed from the time of my suspension is here -
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/a-note-on-forums-guidelines/1325059/41
I found this post by Mod Kelly suggesting they were ‘protecting my privacy’ to be offensive and insulting.
To be crystal clear -
I found it particularly insulting that they had the nerve to add “Thank you for your understanding and respect of your fellow seller community.” when it was Kelly themselves, who was lacking respect for me by making this post insinuating they were speaking on my behalf. They were NOT. It was particularly distressing since I had no ability to counter their invalid claims so they were able to say whatever they liked and I couldn’t post anything to counter it. I did raise the issue with another Mod (supposedly a supervisor) but it was not addressed.
To say the least, I felt disrespected, dismissed, and mistreated - both by the post itself and the dismissal of my objection to it.
Continuing on the subject of the Mods -
Always take anything that comes from Amazon with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. Not everyone you encounter is the person they seem to be or acting with personal integrity.
Some interesting things I observed while I was forced to sit out include:
In summary, what I came away from this experience with is that -
The Amazon Mods do not deserve my support.
Therefore, I will no longer be publicly helping any users in these forums and you can blame your “Community Managers”.
For those sellers who do plan to continue participating, I encourage you to remember, and continue to share, my message:
Best of luck to everyone, happy holidays to you all, and thank you again for all of your support. It’s a shame the Mods didn’t listen to your voices.
RRS, you certainly know about shipping and your wisdom will be missed. You have helped me as your explanations are clearer than those of anyone who actually works for AZ.
So many hard uncomfortable truths in this post.
If we think of the forum like a library, it’s losing its authors and librarians fast.
Most of the books remain, but the new managers have never read them or even know they exist.
This place is going to be very depressing for anybody looking for knowledge or help. Which will mean that more sellers will turn to YouTube, Reddit or other sources of missinformation. All in all, the platform will lose.
Thanks RRS for your help, patience and knowledge. And for dedicating the time to teach so many of us. I have always said that while I’m fortunate to have received free quality help from many sellers on the forums, there are two to whom I’m always thankful for the strong 1-1 help in fixing concrete issues. Both of you are sadly leaving the forums. Evicted by the new thought-police.
I read the ‘offending’ post, and I’m at a complete loss how what you wrote warranted sending you to forum jail for a month…really a month!! Even if your post rubbed a Mod or two the wrong way, a warning would’ve been more than sufficient. The real truth is if what you wrote was in response or calling out another seller (not a Mod), nothing would’ve happened; it was definitely a warning and a message to others on where we stand.
I agree; Amazon is hurting sellers and themselves with this new change; most of the seasoned, knowledgeable, and frequent members who volunteer their time here providing quick and accurate info are leaving once the new forum rolls out. (Some have already left, like the OP)
By not rethinking things after all the blowback and feedback they received, it’s quite clear that the needs and opinions of sellers mean very little to Amazon. This change will create so much extra work for them, plus the damage and effect this will have on their customers. Sellers will no longer receive quick and accurate info, It’s not like Amazon is easy to navigate and understand, and most newbies have no interest in Seller University; they just want to start making money.
This will become even more of a learn-as-you-go and not know what you’re doing or how-to-handle-things type of platform.
Welcome back.
It’s been a disturbing trend for the past 10 years or so for companies to dump an increasing amount of their customer service duties back onto their own customers/users through forums.
I think Amazon forgets that we are also paying customers, too.
I won’t say “Welcome back” …
But, glad to see you however briefly, and thank you for the explanatory post.
@racingroxstore…
All the best…
Always.
What I see in most every post by a MOD:
Which really does not help those in need of it.
Although we have never agreed on all of the details of what life is like on the river, and how to deal with the problems associated with it, I have never doubted your intentions were ever other than good.
I can’t agree with everything in this post, but I can agree with its major thrust and I can agree with your course of action.
Thank you for being another voice providing tools for survival.
I wanted to be sure to say that before I go silent when the NSFE takes over.
You have always been one of the most level headed and knowledgeable of the people assisting here. I never had many of the problems you assisted with, but learned a lot just by reading your posts. You will be missed and the loss of your voice will be directly impacting Amazon and its business. Knowledge is a terrible thing to squander.
I personally will be following the new forum, but am unlikely to post until I feel more comfortable with the outrageous, tone-deaf privacy issues in NSFE.
I’m very happy to see you back, but saddened by the loss of guidance and teaching that could have been had it not been for the misguided “correction” by inept mods.
@Kelly_Amazon has made many false policy statements and has never accepted responsibility nor ownership for those mistakes.
They don’t have a lot of respect for anyone here.
Edit: Dec 24 because the flaggers are running amok again. It’s a shame that even at Christmas, there are still people who just can’t stop themselves from behaving badly.
'*****************************
First, I’d like to express a heartfelt “thank you” to everyone who offered their support through words, private messages, and the use of the #FreeRacingRox tag while I was locked away in forum jail.
I hope (but doubt) this show of support will serve as a lesson to the “Mods” that people can stand together respectfully even when they disagree or don’t like each other. Not everyone who supported me is my close friend, but you don’t have to be friends to have respect, or to stand together against injustice.
You must all be curious what happened, so here it is.
As most of you saw, my exasperation with the Mods hit its limit and I basically called them liars (in big bold letters ) here:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/for-the-love-of-cookies-do-not-launch-the-new-forum-in-the-4th-quarter/1309475/19
I believe my exact words (using the h1 tag for emphasis) were ‘Please stop lying
to us!’ but that part of my post seems to be gone now. Interestingly, the rest of my post remains.
My frustration had obviously boiled over with the Mods’ repeated false, misleading, and deceptive posting activity. The way I expressed that frustration was over the top and so I apologized for it.
The gist of what I was given as the reason for my month-long suspension was my ongoing criticism of the Mods and what they post.
My take on that, as you might imagine, is that if they didn’t post stuff that was deserving of criticism, they wouldn’t be getting criticized. It seems obvious.
My position has always been that we should ALL be working together toward a common goal - helping the users who come to the forums seeking help with their problems.
It’s also my position that the Mods as a group, at least half the time, fail miserably at this, and more often than not seem to have little interest in working with us and frequently actively work against us. If it truly is their goal to help, then they should want to be aware of when they fail, and try to do better.
Instead, they simply shut down the people who shine a spotlight on their failures or question what they do and why they do it. Believing perhaps, that if no one points it out, no one will notice it.
Until/unless the Mods learn what is needed from them here (as opposed to what they want to provide), I will continue to call them out for their failings.
I will NOT however, publicly help forum users any longer and the responsibility for this lies squarely on the Mods’ shoulders. The group of them that decided to suspend me are fully responsible for the fact that no sellers will have forum access to my knowledge or expertise any longer.
When you need help in areas I specialize in, and can no longer get it - blame your Mods. Next time you see them talk about what a great job they do and how they are here to support you, remember this
Of course, I’m nothing special, but I do have specialized knowledge in areas such as shipping template set-up, shipping automation, how Buy Shipping functions, proper brand authorization, and IP complaints. I’m not the only one with this knowledge, of course, but the Mods have driven many of us away, not only through unjust suspensions but with the entire new NSFE forums that nobody (except perhaps them) wants.
Now I want to be clear. There are some Mods who deserve and have earned my respect. It’s a short list.
I’ve had PM exchanges with @CR_Amazon (you’re still, and always will be awesome), @KJ_Amazon, and @Gary_Amazon and each has earned my admiration and respect.
I’ve never had direct contact with Desi but have developed respect for him through his posting activity. Unlike many of the Mods, he writes his own posts, interprets users’ questions correctly, and provides guidance that’s relevant to the issue at hand. for Desi.
A shout out to @Charles_Amazon as well for following Desi’s example in many of his recent posts.
My feelings are mixed on the rest of them. Some have lost my respect entirely as a result of our PM conversations, others I don’t know enough to form an opinion.
One Mod-related issue that does need to be explicity addressed from the time of my suspension is here -
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/a-note-on-forums-guidelines/1325059/41
I found this post by Mod Kelly suggesting they were ‘protecting my privacy’ to be offensive and insulting.
To be crystal clear -
I found it particularly insulting that they had the nerve to add “Thank you for your understanding and respect of your fellow seller community.” when it was Kelly themselves, who was lacking respect for me by making this post insinuating they were speaking on my behalf. They were NOT. It was particularly distressing since I had no ability to counter their invalid claims so they were able to say whatever they liked and I couldn’t post anything to counter it. I did raise the issue with another Mod (supposedly a supervisor) but it was not addressed.
To say the least, I felt disrespected, dismissed, and mistreated - both by the post itself and the dismissal of my objection to it.
Continuing on the subject of the Mods -
Always take anything that comes from Amazon with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. Not everyone you encounter is the person they seem to be or acting with personal integrity.
Some interesting things I observed while I was forced to sit out include:
In summary, what I came away from this experience with is that -
The Amazon Mods do not deserve my support.
Therefore, I will no longer be publicly helping any users in these forums and you can blame your “Community Managers”.
For those sellers who do plan to continue participating, I encourage you to remember, and continue to share, my message:
Best of luck to everyone, happy holidays to you all, and thank you again for all of your support. It’s a shame the Mods didn’t listen to your voices.
Edit: Dec 24 because the flaggers are running amok again. It’s a shame that even at Christmas, there are still people who just can’t stop themselves from behaving badly.
'*****************************
First, I’d like to express a heartfelt “thank you” to everyone who offered their support through words, private messages, and the use of the #FreeRacingRox tag while I was locked away in forum jail.
I hope (but doubt) this show of support will serve as a lesson to the “Mods” that people can stand together respectfully even when they disagree or don’t like each other. Not everyone who supported me is my close friend, but you don’t have to be friends to have respect, or to stand together against injustice.
You must all be curious what happened, so here it is.
As most of you saw, my exasperation with the Mods hit its limit and I basically called them liars (in big bold letters ) here:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/for-the-love-of-cookies-do-not-launch-the-new-forum-in-the-4th-quarter/1309475/19
I believe my exact words (using the h1 tag for emphasis) were ‘Please stop lying
to us!’ but that part of my post seems to be gone now. Interestingly, the rest of my post remains.
My frustration had obviously boiled over with the Mods’ repeated false, misleading, and deceptive posting activity. The way I expressed that frustration was over the top and so I apologized for it.
The gist of what I was given as the reason for my month-long suspension was my ongoing criticism of the Mods and what they post.
My take on that, as you might imagine, is that if they didn’t post stuff that was deserving of criticism, they wouldn’t be getting criticized. It seems obvious.
My position has always been that we should ALL be working together toward a common goal - helping the users who come to the forums seeking help with their problems.
It’s also my position that the Mods as a group, at least half the time, fail miserably at this, and more often than not seem to have little interest in working with us and frequently actively work against us. If it truly is their goal to help, then they should want to be aware of when they fail, and try to do better.
Instead, they simply shut down the people who shine a spotlight on their failures or question what they do and why they do it. Believing perhaps, that if no one points it out, no one will notice it.
Until/unless the Mods learn what is needed from them here (as opposed to what they want to provide), I will continue to call them out for their failings.
I will NOT however, publicly help forum users any longer and the responsibility for this lies squarely on the Mods’ shoulders. The group of them that decided to suspend me are fully responsible for the fact that no sellers will have forum access to my knowledge or expertise any longer.
When you need help in areas I specialize in, and can no longer get it - blame your Mods. Next time you see them talk about what a great job they do and how they are here to support you, remember this
Of course, I’m nothing special, but I do have specialized knowledge in areas such as shipping template set-up, shipping automation, how Buy Shipping functions, proper brand authorization, and IP complaints. I’m not the only one with this knowledge, of course, but the Mods have driven many of us away, not only through unjust suspensions but with the entire new NSFE forums that nobody (except perhaps them) wants.
Now I want to be clear. There are some Mods who deserve and have earned my respect. It’s a short list.
I’ve had PM exchanges with @CR_Amazon (you’re still, and always will be awesome), @KJ_Amazon, and @Gary_Amazon and each has earned my admiration and respect.
I’ve never had direct contact with Desi but have developed respect for him through his posting activity. Unlike many of the Mods, he writes his own posts, interprets users’ questions correctly, and provides guidance that’s relevant to the issue at hand. for Desi.
A shout out to @Charles_Amazon as well for following Desi’s example in many of his recent posts.
My feelings are mixed on the rest of them. Some have lost my respect entirely as a result of our PM conversations, others I don’t know enough to form an opinion.
One Mod-related issue that does need to be explicity addressed from the time of my suspension is here -
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/a-note-on-forums-guidelines/1325059/41
I found this post by Mod Kelly suggesting they were ‘protecting my privacy’ to be offensive and insulting.
To be crystal clear -
I found it particularly insulting that they had the nerve to add “Thank you for your understanding and respect of your fellow seller community.” when it was Kelly themselves, who was lacking respect for me by making this post insinuating they were speaking on my behalf. They were NOT. It was particularly distressing since I had no ability to counter their invalid claims so they were able to say whatever they liked and I couldn’t post anything to counter it. I did raise the issue with another Mod (supposedly a supervisor) but it was not addressed.
To say the least, I felt disrespected, dismissed, and mistreated - both by the post itself and the dismissal of my objection to it.
Continuing on the subject of the Mods -
Always take anything that comes from Amazon with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. Not everyone you encounter is the person they seem to be or acting with personal integrity.
Some interesting things I observed while I was forced to sit out include:
In summary, what I came away from this experience with is that -
The Amazon Mods do not deserve my support.
Therefore, I will no longer be publicly helping any users in these forums and you can blame your “Community Managers”.
For those sellers who do plan to continue participating, I encourage you to remember, and continue to share, my message:
Best of luck to everyone, happy holidays to you all, and thank you again for all of your support. It’s a shame the Mods didn’t listen to your voices.
Edit: Dec 24 because the flaggers are running amok again. It’s a shame that even at Christmas, there are still people who just can’t stop themselves from behaving badly.
'*****************************
First, I’d like to express a heartfelt “thank you” to everyone who offered their support through words, private messages, and the use of the #FreeRacingRox tag while I was locked away in forum jail.
I hope (but doubt) this show of support will serve as a lesson to the “Mods” that people can stand together respectfully even when they disagree or don’t like each other. Not everyone who supported me is my close friend, but you don’t have to be friends to have respect, or to stand together against injustice.
You must all be curious what happened, so here it is.
As most of you saw, my exasperation with the Mods hit its limit and I basically called them liars (in big bold letters ) here:
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/for-the-love-of-cookies-do-not-launch-the-new-forum-in-the-4th-quarter/1309475/19
I believe my exact words (using the h1 tag for emphasis) were ‘Please stop lying
to us!’ but that part of my post seems to be gone now. Interestingly, the rest of my post remains.
My frustration had obviously boiled over with the Mods’ repeated false, misleading, and deceptive posting activity. The way I expressed that frustration was over the top and so I apologized for it.
The gist of what I was given as the reason for my month-long suspension was my ongoing criticism of the Mods and what they post.
My take on that, as you might imagine, is that if they didn’t post stuff that was deserving of criticism, they wouldn’t be getting criticized. It seems obvious.
My position has always been that we should ALL be working together toward a common goal - helping the users who come to the forums seeking help with their problems.
It’s also my position that the Mods as a group, at least half the time, fail miserably at this, and more often than not seem to have little interest in working with us and frequently actively work against us. If it truly is their goal to help, then they should want to be aware of when they fail, and try to do better.
Instead, they simply shut down the people who shine a spotlight on their failures or question what they do and why they do it. Believing perhaps, that if no one points it out, no one will notice it.
Until/unless the Mods learn what is needed from them here (as opposed to what they want to provide), I will continue to call them out for their failings.
I will NOT however, publicly help forum users any longer and the responsibility for this lies squarely on the Mods’ shoulders. The group of them that decided to suspend me are fully responsible for the fact that no sellers will have forum access to my knowledge or expertise any longer.
When you need help in areas I specialize in, and can no longer get it - blame your Mods. Next time you see them talk about what a great job they do and how they are here to support you, remember this
Of course, I’m nothing special, but I do have specialized knowledge in areas such as shipping template set-up, shipping automation, how Buy Shipping functions, proper brand authorization, and IP complaints. I’m not the only one with this knowledge, of course, but the Mods have driven many of us away, not only through unjust suspensions but with the entire new NSFE forums that nobody (except perhaps them) wants.
Now I want to be clear. There are some Mods who deserve and have earned my respect. It’s a short list.
I’ve had PM exchanges with @CR_Amazon (you’re still, and always will be awesome), @KJ_Amazon, and @Gary_Amazon and each has earned my admiration and respect.
I’ve never had direct contact with Desi but have developed respect for him through his posting activity. Unlike many of the Mods, he writes his own posts, interprets users’ questions correctly, and provides guidance that’s relevant to the issue at hand. for Desi.
A shout out to @Charles_Amazon as well for following Desi’s example in many of his recent posts.
My feelings are mixed on the rest of them. Some have lost my respect entirely as a result of our PM conversations, others I don’t know enough to form an opinion.
One Mod-related issue that does need to be explicity addressed from the time of my suspension is here -
https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/a-note-on-forums-guidelines/1325059/41
I found this post by Mod Kelly suggesting they were ‘protecting my privacy’ to be offensive and insulting.
To be crystal clear -
I found it particularly insulting that they had the nerve to add “Thank you for your understanding and respect of your fellow seller community.” when it was Kelly themselves, who was lacking respect for me by making this post insinuating they were speaking on my behalf. They were NOT. It was particularly distressing since I had no ability to counter their invalid claims so they were able to say whatever they liked and I couldn’t post anything to counter it. I did raise the issue with another Mod (supposedly a supervisor) but it was not addressed.
To say the least, I felt disrespected, dismissed, and mistreated - both by the post itself and the dismissal of my objection to it.
Continuing on the subject of the Mods -
Always take anything that comes from Amazon with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. Not everyone you encounter is the person they seem to be or acting with personal integrity.
Some interesting things I observed while I was forced to sit out include:
In summary, what I came away from this experience with is that -
The Amazon Mods do not deserve my support.
Therefore, I will no longer be publicly helping any users in these forums and you can blame your “Community Managers”.
For those sellers who do plan to continue participating, I encourage you to remember, and continue to share, my message:
Best of luck to everyone, happy holidays to you all, and thank you again for all of your support. It’s a shame the Mods didn’t listen to your voices.
RRS, you certainly know about shipping and your wisdom will be missed. You have helped me as your explanations are clearer than those of anyone who actually works for AZ.
So many hard uncomfortable truths in this post.
If we think of the forum like a library, it’s losing its authors and librarians fast.
Most of the books remain, but the new managers have never read them or even know they exist.
This place is going to be very depressing for anybody looking for knowledge or help. Which will mean that more sellers will turn to YouTube, Reddit or other sources of missinformation. All in all, the platform will lose.
Thanks RRS for your help, patience and knowledge. And for dedicating the time to teach so many of us. I have always said that while I’m fortunate to have received free quality help from many sellers on the forums, there are two to whom I’m always thankful for the strong 1-1 help in fixing concrete issues. Both of you are sadly leaving the forums. Evicted by the new thought-police.
I read the ‘offending’ post, and I’m at a complete loss how what you wrote warranted sending you to forum jail for a month…really a month!! Even if your post rubbed a Mod or two the wrong way, a warning would’ve been more than sufficient. The real truth is if what you wrote was in response or calling out another seller (not a Mod), nothing would’ve happened; it was definitely a warning and a message to others on where we stand.
I agree; Amazon is hurting sellers and themselves with this new change; most of the seasoned, knowledgeable, and frequent members who volunteer their time here providing quick and accurate info are leaving once the new forum rolls out. (Some have already left, like the OP)
By not rethinking things after all the blowback and feedback they received, it’s quite clear that the needs and opinions of sellers mean very little to Amazon. This change will create so much extra work for them, plus the damage and effect this will have on their customers. Sellers will no longer receive quick and accurate info, It’s not like Amazon is easy to navigate and understand, and most newbies have no interest in Seller University; they just want to start making money.
This will become even more of a learn-as-you-go and not know what you’re doing or how-to-handle-things type of platform.
Welcome back.
It’s been a disturbing trend for the past 10 years or so for companies to dump an increasing amount of their customer service duties back onto their own customers/users through forums.
I think Amazon forgets that we are also paying customers, too.
I won’t say “Welcome back” …
But, glad to see you however briefly, and thank you for the explanatory post.
@racingroxstore…
All the best…
Always.
What I see in most every post by a MOD:
Which really does not help those in need of it.
Although we have never agreed on all of the details of what life is like on the river, and how to deal with the problems associated with it, I have never doubted your intentions were ever other than good.
I can’t agree with everything in this post, but I can agree with its major thrust and I can agree with your course of action.
Thank you for being another voice providing tools for survival.
I wanted to be sure to say that before I go silent when the NSFE takes over.
You have always been one of the most level headed and knowledgeable of the people assisting here. I never had many of the problems you assisted with, but learned a lot just by reading your posts. You will be missed and the loss of your voice will be directly impacting Amazon and its business. Knowledge is a terrible thing to squander.
I personally will be following the new forum, but am unlikely to post until I feel more comfortable with the outrageous, tone-deaf privacy issues in NSFE.
I’m very happy to see you back, but saddened by the loss of guidance and teaching that could have been had it not been for the misguided “correction” by inept mods.
@Kelly_Amazon has made many false policy statements and has never accepted responsibility nor ownership for those mistakes.
They don’t have a lot of respect for anyone here.
RRS, you certainly know about shipping and your wisdom will be missed. You have helped me as your explanations are clearer than those of anyone who actually works for AZ.
RRS, you certainly know about shipping and your wisdom will be missed. You have helped me as your explanations are clearer than those of anyone who actually works for AZ.
So many hard uncomfortable truths in this post.
If we think of the forum like a library, it’s losing its authors and librarians fast.
Most of the books remain, but the new managers have never read them or even know they exist.
This place is going to be very depressing for anybody looking for knowledge or help. Which will mean that more sellers will turn to YouTube, Reddit or other sources of missinformation. All in all, the platform will lose.
Thanks RRS for your help, patience and knowledge. And for dedicating the time to teach so many of us. I have always said that while I’m fortunate to have received free quality help from many sellers on the forums, there are two to whom I’m always thankful for the strong 1-1 help in fixing concrete issues. Both of you are sadly leaving the forums. Evicted by the new thought-police.
So many hard uncomfortable truths in this post.
If we think of the forum like a library, it’s losing its authors and librarians fast.
Most of the books remain, but the new managers have never read them or even know they exist.
This place is going to be very depressing for anybody looking for knowledge or help. Which will mean that more sellers will turn to YouTube, Reddit or other sources of missinformation. All in all, the platform will lose.
Thanks RRS for your help, patience and knowledge. And for dedicating the time to teach so many of us. I have always said that while I’m fortunate to have received free quality help from many sellers on the forums, there are two to whom I’m always thankful for the strong 1-1 help in fixing concrete issues. Both of you are sadly leaving the forums. Evicted by the new thought-police.
I read the ‘offending’ post, and I’m at a complete loss how what you wrote warranted sending you to forum jail for a month…really a month!! Even if your post rubbed a Mod or two the wrong way, a warning would’ve been more than sufficient. The real truth is if what you wrote was in response or calling out another seller (not a Mod), nothing would’ve happened; it was definitely a warning and a message to others on where we stand.
I agree; Amazon is hurting sellers and themselves with this new change; most of the seasoned, knowledgeable, and frequent members who volunteer their time here providing quick and accurate info are leaving once the new forum rolls out. (Some have already left, like the OP)
By not rethinking things after all the blowback and feedback they received, it’s quite clear that the needs and opinions of sellers mean very little to Amazon. This change will create so much extra work for them, plus the damage and effect this will have on their customers. Sellers will no longer receive quick and accurate info, It’s not like Amazon is easy to navigate and understand, and most newbies have no interest in Seller University; they just want to start making money.
This will become even more of a learn-as-you-go and not know what you’re doing or how-to-handle-things type of platform.
I read the ‘offending’ post, and I’m at a complete loss how what you wrote warranted sending you to forum jail for a month…really a month!! Even if your post rubbed a Mod or two the wrong way, a warning would’ve been more than sufficient. The real truth is if what you wrote was in response or calling out another seller (not a Mod), nothing would’ve happened; it was definitely a warning and a message to others on where we stand.
I agree; Amazon is hurting sellers and themselves with this new change; most of the seasoned, knowledgeable, and frequent members who volunteer their time here providing quick and accurate info are leaving once the new forum rolls out. (Some have already left, like the OP)
By not rethinking things after all the blowback and feedback they received, it’s quite clear that the needs and opinions of sellers mean very little to Amazon. This change will create so much extra work for them, plus the damage and effect this will have on their customers. Sellers will no longer receive quick and accurate info, It’s not like Amazon is easy to navigate and understand, and most newbies have no interest in Seller University; they just want to start making money.
This will become even more of a learn-as-you-go and not know what you’re doing or how-to-handle-things type of platform.
Welcome back.
It’s been a disturbing trend for the past 10 years or so for companies to dump an increasing amount of their customer service duties back onto their own customers/users through forums.
I think Amazon forgets that we are also paying customers, too.
Welcome back.
It’s been a disturbing trend for the past 10 years or so for companies to dump an increasing amount of their customer service duties back onto their own customers/users through forums.
I think Amazon forgets that we are also paying customers, too.
I won’t say “Welcome back” …
But, glad to see you however briefly, and thank you for the explanatory post.
I won’t say “Welcome back” …
But, glad to see you however briefly, and thank you for the explanatory post.
@racingroxstore…
All the best…
Always.
What I see in most every post by a MOD:
Which really does not help those in need of it.
@racingroxstore…
All the best…
Always.
What I see in most every post by a MOD:
Which really does not help those in need of it.
Although we have never agreed on all of the details of what life is like on the river, and how to deal with the problems associated with it, I have never doubted your intentions were ever other than good.
I can’t agree with everything in this post, but I can agree with its major thrust and I can agree with your course of action.
Thank you for being another voice providing tools for survival.
I wanted to be sure to say that before I go silent when the NSFE takes over.
Although we have never agreed on all of the details of what life is like on the river, and how to deal with the problems associated with it, I have never doubted your intentions were ever other than good.
I can’t agree with everything in this post, but I can agree with its major thrust and I can agree with your course of action.
Thank you for being another voice providing tools for survival.
I wanted to be sure to say that before I go silent when the NSFE takes over.
You have always been one of the most level headed and knowledgeable of the people assisting here. I never had many of the problems you assisted with, but learned a lot just by reading your posts. You will be missed and the loss of your voice will be directly impacting Amazon and its business. Knowledge is a terrible thing to squander.
I personally will be following the new forum, but am unlikely to post until I feel more comfortable with the outrageous, tone-deaf privacy issues in NSFE.
You have always been one of the most level headed and knowledgeable of the people assisting here. I never had many of the problems you assisted with, but learned a lot just by reading your posts. You will be missed and the loss of your voice will be directly impacting Amazon and its business. Knowledge is a terrible thing to squander.
I personally will be following the new forum, but am unlikely to post until I feel more comfortable with the outrageous, tone-deaf privacy issues in NSFE.
I’m very happy to see you back, but saddened by the loss of guidance and teaching that could have been had it not been for the misguided “correction” by inept mods.
@Kelly_Amazon has made many false policy statements and has never accepted responsibility nor ownership for those mistakes.
They don’t have a lot of respect for anyone here.
I’m very happy to see you back, but saddened by the loss of guidance and teaching that could have been had it not been for the misguided “correction” by inept mods.
@Kelly_Amazon has made many false policy statements and has never accepted responsibility nor ownership for those mistakes.
They don’t have a lot of respect for anyone here.