Amazon.com competing directly against a professional seller!


#1

I just learned yesterday that Amazon.com is directly competing against me by selling the exact same product (ASIN B003DQPS5U) (my ASIN B0029KHEJY) from the exact same supplier (Nature’s Footprint).

Is this not a conflict of interest and in direct conflict with the professional sellers’ agreement?

Has any other professional seller ever experienced this issue?

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#2

Many of us don’t remember reading anywhere that Amazon is not allowed to compete against us. Can you post from your professional sellers agreement what you are referring to?

The pictures on both ASINs are different, are the UPC numbers different also?


#3

This is Amazon’s platform. Unless you manufacture your own products, they can and will start carrying popular items. You’re giving them this information because they can see what you’re selling.

You may feel it is a conflict of interest, but Amazon owns the ASINs. They can sell what they want. I carry one brand that is sold only in specialty stores. No mass market retailer can carry them… except Amazon. Amazon has the buying power and the clout to get their way.


#4

Welcome to Amazon and their business model.

They use 3p sellers to research brands, then strike up deals with the manufacturers.

Amazon will then undercut your prices so it’s impossible to compete. On the bright side you can raise your prices so when they run out (which happens pretty often) you make more.

The only suppliers Amazon hasn’t done that to us is ones that refuse to sell to Amazon. Those items amazingly get banned on Amazon.


#5

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It is even worse than that.

Amazon recruits new sellers to see what brands and products sell well using their own analysis tools and then contacts the suppliers for those brands and negotiates better deals than the professional sellers get and determine exactly how much inventory and what prices are required to beat those sellers.

That is the reason why we are here - to help Amazon find out the right products to sell.

As a side benefit, we are also around for to have those products when they run out of stock.

It is not a conflict of interest - it is their business model and it works pretty well for them.

What we do is to focus on the products they are not selling - in particular the new releases that they have not yet received into stock and make sure that we have those items when Amazon runs of out stock or when the products are out of stock at the manufacturer.

Amazon is not very efficient or effective. They do not price wisely, often pricing for less than the customers are willing to pay. They restock the wrong items, take too long to order the new items and are not very good at keeping tabs on it all. The Retail team is under-resourced with inexperienced staff that do not know the categories they are responsible for very well.

They tend to focus more on evergreen products (that are always available that have consistent demand) rather than what is new and coming out. They only stock those after they have been proven by our sales.

You need to change your strategy and determine the best way to compete against Amazon. That is not by having the lowest price. It is by having what you don’t have or can not get.

Dave


#6

Ahhh…Yes…and No its not a conflict…


#7

OMG I’M SHOCKED!!!


#8

Beside the other posts…these are not the same items…each one has a different upc.


#9

Have you looked around Amazon? They compete against EVERYBODY. I have almost 10,000 books listed and I bet Amazon competes on 50% of them.


#10

Amazon’s business is selling product. It’s business is not allowing you to sell product.

You are on their site competing against Amazon.

Most who do, find they cannot compete.

Most successful 3P sellers do not compete with amazon.

Amazon was selling product long before they allowed 3P sellers.

How many other things about the site that you should know do you not know?

I suggest you do some learning before you invest in merchandise you will not make a profit on.


#11

Unless you have an ‘exclusive’ agreement with Nature’s Footprint to be their only reseller on Amazon.com, your simply going to have to deal with the competition. So, yes, likely every professional seller, except those that are selling their own branded/manufactured products, have/are competing with Amazon on many products.

I would recommend you check some other products. You will likely see Amazon a seller on many popular branded products. Most manufacturers/brands are not going to turn away Amazon when they come asking to sell their products.

We are a ‘Professional Seller’ and Amazon directly competes with us on many well known branded products we sell here. Except those that we have exclusive reseller rights for but those are mostly smaller brands.


#12

It’s Amazon’s site, why would you not think they could sell anything they want to sell?


#13

You must be new at this


#14

and different size bricks. OP’s bricks are bigger … 1/3 cu ft versus 1/8 for Amazon’s


#15

I +used to+ sell coir, but dumped the entire stock in the trash, last summer.

There are too many sellers, never mind Amazon and I do not have room to store pallets of coir.

It’s dirt cheap (no pun intended), left the bricks available for people to take free, +before dumping+ and after a month, with no takers for FREE, was cheaper to physically dump it.


#16

As the tailor said to the naked man “sew what?”.


#17

YES THEY USE THE KNOWLEDGE GAINED FROM OUR SALES TO DECIDED TO SELL A PRODUCT AND UNDER cut US AND SELL IT THEMSELVES YOU WOULD THINK THATS ILLEGAL BUT THEY ARE DOING IT OUR SALES ARE DOWN 40 PERCENT YEAR OVER YEAR AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE A PRODUCT SELLING WELL THEY START SELLING IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW STUPID WE ARE OUR DAYS AS 3RD PARTY SELLERS IS NUMBERED sorry about caps welcome to amazon their model is changing for sure


#18

Have you tried sending Amazon a “Cease & Desist” letter?

That usually works…


#19

You thought my comment was serious? Seriously?


#20

The oddest thing about this misguided thread is that the two ASINs aren’t even the same product.

Barb