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Amazon RFS policy handling of Outbound Shipping Charges

@SEAmod

I have a difficult time reaching appropriate internal teams/individuals with this kind of thing so I am hopeful you can help.

I would like the business team to respond, by phone or in writing, with specific details about how the new RFS policy applies to Outbound Shipping charges in Buyer Fault scenarios. I can find nothing in Amazon’s help pages that addresses this.

We specifically charge customers separately for shipping for certain items because the items are costly to ship with respect to the item price and therefore make no sense to offer on Amazon if we are forced to absorb the cost of outbound shipping charges for Buyer Fault returns.

For example,

This item is returned frequently for two reasons:

  1. Sellers of Saftron brand rails and ladders fail to mention in their descriptions that the rails and ladders include B0081KXP9Y, so purchasing the B0081KXP9Y separately is unnecessary. I am unable to edit those product pages myself because I do not sell the rails and ladders.

  2. Buyers fail to read the bullet points and description of the B0081KXP9Y before purchasing. The bullet points clearly state “Note: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail.” The description clearly states: “NOTE: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail. For more details, contact the seller of the ladder or rail.”

Both of these situations are out of my control. But even with a very high (30% to 40%) return rate on this item, a majority of purchasers actually need the item. It is a disservice to those customers to remove this item from Amazon simply because the people that wrote the rail/ladder descriptions omit an important detail, or because buyers purchase the item by mistake when they do not really need it.

When a Buyer admits a Buyer Fault reason, Outbound Shipping charges should not be refunded.

However, Amazon’s new “refund at first scan” policy fails to take this into consideration. It refunds the buyer for Outbound Shipping Charges regardless of fault. This is ethically wrong. And it makes it financially impossible to continue to offer this item to the people that actually do need it. Because the item is so inexpensive, there is no way to maintain a reasonable price while figuring in a factor to pay the back and forth shipping costs involved in numerous returns.

For the time being, I have added this item (and all other items for which we charge freight separately from the item) to our Prepaid Returns Exemptions List. I would rather not, but I have no alternative to prevent Amazon applying an inappropriately over-aggressive refund policy.

Additionally, for this specific ASIN, I now feel like I must contact each buyer of the item prior to shipping to confirm that they actually need the item they ordered.

The truth of the matter is a buyer should be responsible for their buying decisions. If they bought this item and then realize they didn’t need it, and they avoided learning anything relevant about the product they were purchasing along the way, then they should most certainly NOT be entitled to a refund of separately billed Outbound Shipping Charges.

To the best of my knowledge, when I buy from Amazon, Amazon does not refund me for outbound shipping charges when I choose a buyer-fault reason for a return. Why then does it force 3P sellers to refund outbound shipping charges for buyer-fault scenarios?

Business Team - please respond in writing with the specific written policy regarding handling of Outbound Shipping Charges in the case of Buyer Fault returns. Because as I have stated earlier, I do not believe it exists.

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Amazon RFS policy handling of Outbound Shipping Charges

@SEAmod

I have a difficult time reaching appropriate internal teams/individuals with this kind of thing so I am hopeful you can help.

I would like the business team to respond, by phone or in writing, with specific details about how the new RFS policy applies to Outbound Shipping charges in Buyer Fault scenarios. I can find nothing in Amazon’s help pages that addresses this.

We specifically charge customers separately for shipping for certain items because the items are costly to ship with respect to the item price and therefore make no sense to offer on Amazon if we are forced to absorb the cost of outbound shipping charges for Buyer Fault returns.

For example,

This item is returned frequently for two reasons:

  1. Sellers of Saftron brand rails and ladders fail to mention in their descriptions that the rails and ladders include B0081KXP9Y, so purchasing the B0081KXP9Y separately is unnecessary. I am unable to edit those product pages myself because I do not sell the rails and ladders.

  2. Buyers fail to read the bullet points and description of the B0081KXP9Y before purchasing. The bullet points clearly state “Note: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail.” The description clearly states: “NOTE: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail. For more details, contact the seller of the ladder or rail.”

Both of these situations are out of my control. But even with a very high (30% to 40%) return rate on this item, a majority of purchasers actually need the item. It is a disservice to those customers to remove this item from Amazon simply because the people that wrote the rail/ladder descriptions omit an important detail, or because buyers purchase the item by mistake when they do not really need it.

When a Buyer admits a Buyer Fault reason, Outbound Shipping charges should not be refunded.

However, Amazon’s new “refund at first scan” policy fails to take this into consideration. It refunds the buyer for Outbound Shipping Charges regardless of fault. This is ethically wrong. And it makes it financially impossible to continue to offer this item to the people that actually do need it. Because the item is so inexpensive, there is no way to maintain a reasonable price while figuring in a factor to pay the back and forth shipping costs involved in numerous returns.

For the time being, I have added this item (and all other items for which we charge freight separately from the item) to our Prepaid Returns Exemptions List. I would rather not, but I have no alternative to prevent Amazon applying an inappropriately over-aggressive refund policy.

Additionally, for this specific ASIN, I now feel like I must contact each buyer of the item prior to shipping to confirm that they actually need the item they ordered.

The truth of the matter is a buyer should be responsible for their buying decisions. If they bought this item and then realize they didn’t need it, and they avoided learning anything relevant about the product they were purchasing along the way, then they should most certainly NOT be entitled to a refund of separately billed Outbound Shipping Charges.

To the best of my knowledge, when I buy from Amazon, Amazon does not refund me for outbound shipping charges when I choose a buyer-fault reason for a return. Why then does it force 3P sellers to refund outbound shipping charges for buyer-fault scenarios?

Business Team - please respond in writing with the specific written policy regarding handling of Outbound Shipping Charges in the case of Buyer Fault returns. Because as I have stated earlier, I do not believe it exists.

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Seller_d7Z0MKOJalf7S

This statement only applies when the buyer paid for shipping when they placed the order.
If you shipped with free shipping then nothing to withhold.

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Seller_upIXHlz6LnywQ

More denials of similar safe-t claims…

" As the return label cost was already deducted from the refund, you are not eligible for reimbursement. There is no reimbursement due on this order."

Umm… no, I am not seeking return label costs. I am seeking Shipping Revenue that was over-refunded to the buyer.

@SEAmod ? any help at all appreciated. Most Seller Support agents I have been connected with don’t even seem to have been trained on what RFS is or how it works. How can people be put in a position to rule on SAFE-T Claims when they don’t even understand the policy?

Please. Help. Any Moderators…

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Seller_DdmPiA1p1S2Wu

This is indeed absolutely absurd. I attempted to do the 1 cent refund to prevent Amazon from giving my money away, but it didn’t work. No one refunds outbound shipping charges. Like you said, what if a product costs hundreds of dollars to ship. Because the buyer didn’t pay attention or messed up in some way, the seller has to pay for the mistake even though the customer knew up front that the shipping charge was separate. With this absurdity, you’d have to be insane to offer any kind of premium shipping on Amazon now.

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Seller_nfYdgA5KzyZuh

Have you had auto refunds kick in on scan where you charged outbound and it still refunded the buyer in full even though it was buyer faulted?

We only had one refund so far and it happened to be on a free shipping item with buyer faulted return and it never deducted the prepaid label.

We also charge outbound shipping separately for same reasons as you and are wondering if it’s refunding the outbound shipping too.

We have had a bunch of returns but only 1 did the refund on scan. The rest have not and we are refunding upon receipt.

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

Anyone making any headway with this or getting an official answer? I spent 2 hours on the phone with a US rep that was actually trying to help, but the call dropped with no resolution…

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

I really hope this gets corrected. To protect ourselves, we have had to disable all expedited/express shipping options except the cheapest economy shipping we offer…

I’m really surprised there isn’t more buzz about this on here.

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Seller_piL7iNoHXIzZw

Having the exact same issue here only the safe-t claim denial reason is “Only refunds issued by Amazon to customers are eligible for reimbursement.” which confuses me considering I did not issue the credit (nor would I have issued a credit on the outbound shipping for a buyer-faulted return.) so Amazon must have issued it.

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Seller_mRsMduRL4svMm

Has anyone had any success with getting the shipping refunded when the buyer has used a false return reason? I have one coming back now that claims Inaccurate Website Description, but it isn’t. She simply did not actually read it. One of the plethora of blind bag toys out there and she thought she’d get 24 because there is a picture of all 24 possible items in the listing…yeah, right. For the cost of 1? Sure you did, honey. Our contribution is much clearer and we always put in language, in the title, bullets and description stating 1 piece, but Amazon has not opted to use our contribution. So, do we just get screwed for shipping both ways? probably, but hoping someone else has had some luck fighting back.

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Amazon RFS policy handling of Outbound Shipping Charges

@SEAmod

I have a difficult time reaching appropriate internal teams/individuals with this kind of thing so I am hopeful you can help.

I would like the business team to respond, by phone or in writing, with specific details about how the new RFS policy applies to Outbound Shipping charges in Buyer Fault scenarios. I can find nothing in Amazon’s help pages that addresses this.

We specifically charge customers separately for shipping for certain items because the items are costly to ship with respect to the item price and therefore make no sense to offer on Amazon if we are forced to absorb the cost of outbound shipping charges for Buyer Fault returns.

For example,

This item is returned frequently for two reasons:

  1. Sellers of Saftron brand rails and ladders fail to mention in their descriptions that the rails and ladders include B0081KXP9Y, so purchasing the B0081KXP9Y separately is unnecessary. I am unable to edit those product pages myself because I do not sell the rails and ladders.

  2. Buyers fail to read the bullet points and description of the B0081KXP9Y before purchasing. The bullet points clearly state “Note: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail.” The description clearly states: “NOTE: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail. For more details, contact the seller of the ladder or rail.”

Both of these situations are out of my control. But even with a very high (30% to 40%) return rate on this item, a majority of purchasers actually need the item. It is a disservice to those customers to remove this item from Amazon simply because the people that wrote the rail/ladder descriptions omit an important detail, or because buyers purchase the item by mistake when they do not really need it.

When a Buyer admits a Buyer Fault reason, Outbound Shipping charges should not be refunded.

However, Amazon’s new “refund at first scan” policy fails to take this into consideration. It refunds the buyer for Outbound Shipping Charges regardless of fault. This is ethically wrong. And it makes it financially impossible to continue to offer this item to the people that actually do need it. Because the item is so inexpensive, there is no way to maintain a reasonable price while figuring in a factor to pay the back and forth shipping costs involved in numerous returns.

For the time being, I have added this item (and all other items for which we charge freight separately from the item) to our Prepaid Returns Exemptions List. I would rather not, but I have no alternative to prevent Amazon applying an inappropriately over-aggressive refund policy.

Additionally, for this specific ASIN, I now feel like I must contact each buyer of the item prior to shipping to confirm that they actually need the item they ordered.

The truth of the matter is a buyer should be responsible for their buying decisions. If they bought this item and then realize they didn’t need it, and they avoided learning anything relevant about the product they were purchasing along the way, then they should most certainly NOT be entitled to a refund of separately billed Outbound Shipping Charges.

To the best of my knowledge, when I buy from Amazon, Amazon does not refund me for outbound shipping charges when I choose a buyer-fault reason for a return. Why then does it force 3P sellers to refund outbound shipping charges for buyer-fault scenarios?

Business Team - please respond in writing with the specific written policy regarding handling of Outbound Shipping Charges in the case of Buyer Fault returns. Because as I have stated earlier, I do not believe it exists.

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Amazon RFS policy handling of Outbound Shipping Charges

@SEAmod

I have a difficult time reaching appropriate internal teams/individuals with this kind of thing so I am hopeful you can help.

I would like the business team to respond, by phone or in writing, with specific details about how the new RFS policy applies to Outbound Shipping charges in Buyer Fault scenarios. I can find nothing in Amazon’s help pages that addresses this.

We specifically charge customers separately for shipping for certain items because the items are costly to ship with respect to the item price and therefore make no sense to offer on Amazon if we are forced to absorb the cost of outbound shipping charges for Buyer Fault returns.

For example,

This item is returned frequently for two reasons:

  1. Sellers of Saftron brand rails and ladders fail to mention in their descriptions that the rails and ladders include B0081KXP9Y, so purchasing the B0081KXP9Y separately is unnecessary. I am unable to edit those product pages myself because I do not sell the rails and ladders.

  2. Buyers fail to read the bullet points and description of the B0081KXP9Y before purchasing. The bullet points clearly state “Note: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail.” The description clearly states: “NOTE: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail. For more details, contact the seller of the ladder or rail.”

Both of these situations are out of my control. But even with a very high (30% to 40%) return rate on this item, a majority of purchasers actually need the item. It is a disservice to those customers to remove this item from Amazon simply because the people that wrote the rail/ladder descriptions omit an important detail, or because buyers purchase the item by mistake when they do not really need it.

When a Buyer admits a Buyer Fault reason, Outbound Shipping charges should not be refunded.

However, Amazon’s new “refund at first scan” policy fails to take this into consideration. It refunds the buyer for Outbound Shipping Charges regardless of fault. This is ethically wrong. And it makes it financially impossible to continue to offer this item to the people that actually do need it. Because the item is so inexpensive, there is no way to maintain a reasonable price while figuring in a factor to pay the back and forth shipping costs involved in numerous returns.

For the time being, I have added this item (and all other items for which we charge freight separately from the item) to our Prepaid Returns Exemptions List. I would rather not, but I have no alternative to prevent Amazon applying an inappropriately over-aggressive refund policy.

Additionally, for this specific ASIN, I now feel like I must contact each buyer of the item prior to shipping to confirm that they actually need the item they ordered.

The truth of the matter is a buyer should be responsible for their buying decisions. If they bought this item and then realize they didn’t need it, and they avoided learning anything relevant about the product they were purchasing along the way, then they should most certainly NOT be entitled to a refund of separately billed Outbound Shipping Charges.

To the best of my knowledge, when I buy from Amazon, Amazon does not refund me for outbound shipping charges when I choose a buyer-fault reason for a return. Why then does it force 3P sellers to refund outbound shipping charges for buyer-fault scenarios?

Business Team - please respond in writing with the specific written policy regarding handling of Outbound Shipping Charges in the case of Buyer Fault returns. Because as I have stated earlier, I do not believe it exists.

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Amazon RFS policy handling of Outbound Shipping Charges

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@SEAmod

I have a difficult time reaching appropriate internal teams/individuals with this kind of thing so I am hopeful you can help.

I would like the business team to respond, by phone or in writing, with specific details about how the new RFS policy applies to Outbound Shipping charges in Buyer Fault scenarios. I can find nothing in Amazon’s help pages that addresses this.

We specifically charge customers separately for shipping for certain items because the items are costly to ship with respect to the item price and therefore make no sense to offer on Amazon if we are forced to absorb the cost of outbound shipping charges for Buyer Fault returns.

For example,

This item is returned frequently for two reasons:

  1. Sellers of Saftron brand rails and ladders fail to mention in their descriptions that the rails and ladders include B0081KXP9Y, so purchasing the B0081KXP9Y separately is unnecessary. I am unable to edit those product pages myself because I do not sell the rails and ladders.

  2. Buyers fail to read the bullet points and description of the B0081KXP9Y before purchasing. The bullet points clearly state “Note: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail.” The description clearly states: “NOTE: New Saftron rails and ladders typically are shipped complete with escutcheons. You should not need to purchase this item separately if you are also buying a ladder or rail. For more details, contact the seller of the ladder or rail.”

Both of these situations are out of my control. But even with a very high (30% to 40%) return rate on this item, a majority of purchasers actually need the item. It is a disservice to those customers to remove this item from Amazon simply because the people that wrote the rail/ladder descriptions omit an important detail, or because buyers purchase the item by mistake when they do not really need it.

When a Buyer admits a Buyer Fault reason, Outbound Shipping charges should not be refunded.

However, Amazon’s new “refund at first scan” policy fails to take this into consideration. It refunds the buyer for Outbound Shipping Charges regardless of fault. This is ethically wrong. And it makes it financially impossible to continue to offer this item to the people that actually do need it. Because the item is so inexpensive, there is no way to maintain a reasonable price while figuring in a factor to pay the back and forth shipping costs involved in numerous returns.

For the time being, I have added this item (and all other items for which we charge freight separately from the item) to our Prepaid Returns Exemptions List. I would rather not, but I have no alternative to prevent Amazon applying an inappropriately over-aggressive refund policy.

Additionally, for this specific ASIN, I now feel like I must contact each buyer of the item prior to shipping to confirm that they actually need the item they ordered.

The truth of the matter is a buyer should be responsible for their buying decisions. If they bought this item and then realize they didn’t need it, and they avoided learning anything relevant about the product they were purchasing along the way, then they should most certainly NOT be entitled to a refund of separately billed Outbound Shipping Charges.

To the best of my knowledge, when I buy from Amazon, Amazon does not refund me for outbound shipping charges when I choose a buyer-fault reason for a return. Why then does it force 3P sellers to refund outbound shipping charges for buyer-fault scenarios?

Business Team - please respond in writing with the specific written policy regarding handling of Outbound Shipping Charges in the case of Buyer Fault returns. Because as I have stated earlier, I do not believe it exists.

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Seller_qz1y4XweLE9SO

Thread in the forums:

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Seller_d7Z0MKOJalf7S

This statement only applies when the buyer paid for shipping when they placed the order.
If you shipped with free shipping then nothing to withhold.

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Seller_upIXHlz6LnywQ

More denials of similar safe-t claims…

" As the return label cost was already deducted from the refund, you are not eligible for reimbursement. There is no reimbursement due on this order."

Umm… no, I am not seeking return label costs. I am seeking Shipping Revenue that was over-refunded to the buyer.

@SEAmod ? any help at all appreciated. Most Seller Support agents I have been connected with don’t even seem to have been trained on what RFS is or how it works. How can people be put in a position to rule on SAFE-T Claims when they don’t even understand the policy?

Please. Help. Any Moderators…

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Seller_DdmPiA1p1S2Wu

This is indeed absolutely absurd. I attempted to do the 1 cent refund to prevent Amazon from giving my money away, but it didn’t work. No one refunds outbound shipping charges. Like you said, what if a product costs hundreds of dollars to ship. Because the buyer didn’t pay attention or messed up in some way, the seller has to pay for the mistake even though the customer knew up front that the shipping charge was separate. With this absurdity, you’d have to be insane to offer any kind of premium shipping on Amazon now.

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Seller_nfYdgA5KzyZuh

Have you had auto refunds kick in on scan where you charged outbound and it still refunded the buyer in full even though it was buyer faulted?

We only had one refund so far and it happened to be on a free shipping item with buyer faulted return and it never deducted the prepaid label.

We also charge outbound shipping separately for same reasons as you and are wondering if it’s refunding the outbound shipping too.

We have had a bunch of returns but only 1 did the refund on scan. The rest have not and we are refunding upon receipt.

10
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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

Anyone making any headway with this or getting an official answer? I spent 2 hours on the phone with a US rep that was actually trying to help, but the call dropped with no resolution…

10
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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

I really hope this gets corrected. To protect ourselves, we have had to disable all expedited/express shipping options except the cheapest economy shipping we offer…

I’m really surprised there isn’t more buzz about this on here.

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Seller_piL7iNoHXIzZw

Having the exact same issue here only the safe-t claim denial reason is “Only refunds issued by Amazon to customers are eligible for reimbursement.” which confuses me considering I did not issue the credit (nor would I have issued a credit on the outbound shipping for a buyer-faulted return.) so Amazon must have issued it.

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Seller_mRsMduRL4svMm

Has anyone had any success with getting the shipping refunded when the buyer has used a false return reason? I have one coming back now that claims Inaccurate Website Description, but it isn’t. She simply did not actually read it. One of the plethora of blind bag toys out there and she thought she’d get 24 because there is a picture of all 24 possible items in the listing…yeah, right. For the cost of 1? Sure you did, honey. Our contribution is much clearer and we always put in language, in the title, bullets and description stating 1 piece, but Amazon has not opted to use our contribution. So, do we just get screwed for shipping both ways? probably, but hoping someone else has had some luck fighting back.

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Seller_qz1y4XweLE9SO

Thread in the forums:

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Thread in the forums:

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Seller_d7Z0MKOJalf7S

This statement only applies when the buyer paid for shipping when they placed the order.
If you shipped with free shipping then nothing to withhold.

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Seller_d7Z0MKOJalf7S

This statement only applies when the buyer paid for shipping when they placed the order.
If you shipped with free shipping then nothing to withhold.

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Seller_upIXHlz6LnywQ

More denials of similar safe-t claims…

" As the return label cost was already deducted from the refund, you are not eligible for reimbursement. There is no reimbursement due on this order."

Umm… no, I am not seeking return label costs. I am seeking Shipping Revenue that was over-refunded to the buyer.

@SEAmod ? any help at all appreciated. Most Seller Support agents I have been connected with don’t even seem to have been trained on what RFS is or how it works. How can people be put in a position to rule on SAFE-T Claims when they don’t even understand the policy?

Please. Help. Any Moderators…

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Seller_upIXHlz6LnywQ

More denials of similar safe-t claims…

" As the return label cost was already deducted from the refund, you are not eligible for reimbursement. There is no reimbursement due on this order."

Umm… no, I am not seeking return label costs. I am seeking Shipping Revenue that was over-refunded to the buyer.

@SEAmod ? any help at all appreciated. Most Seller Support agents I have been connected with don’t even seem to have been trained on what RFS is or how it works. How can people be put in a position to rule on SAFE-T Claims when they don’t even understand the policy?

Please. Help. Any Moderators…

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Seller_DdmPiA1p1S2Wu

This is indeed absolutely absurd. I attempted to do the 1 cent refund to prevent Amazon from giving my money away, but it didn’t work. No one refunds outbound shipping charges. Like you said, what if a product costs hundreds of dollars to ship. Because the buyer didn’t pay attention or messed up in some way, the seller has to pay for the mistake even though the customer knew up front that the shipping charge was separate. With this absurdity, you’d have to be insane to offer any kind of premium shipping on Amazon now.

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Seller_DdmPiA1p1S2Wu

This is indeed absolutely absurd. I attempted to do the 1 cent refund to prevent Amazon from giving my money away, but it didn’t work. No one refunds outbound shipping charges. Like you said, what if a product costs hundreds of dollars to ship. Because the buyer didn’t pay attention or messed up in some way, the seller has to pay for the mistake even though the customer knew up front that the shipping charge was separate. With this absurdity, you’d have to be insane to offer any kind of premium shipping on Amazon now.

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Seller_nfYdgA5KzyZuh

Have you had auto refunds kick in on scan where you charged outbound and it still refunded the buyer in full even though it was buyer faulted?

We only had one refund so far and it happened to be on a free shipping item with buyer faulted return and it never deducted the prepaid label.

We also charge outbound shipping separately for same reasons as you and are wondering if it’s refunding the outbound shipping too.

We have had a bunch of returns but only 1 did the refund on scan. The rest have not and we are refunding upon receipt.

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Seller_nfYdgA5KzyZuh

Have you had auto refunds kick in on scan where you charged outbound and it still refunded the buyer in full even though it was buyer faulted?

We only had one refund so far and it happened to be on a free shipping item with buyer faulted return and it never deducted the prepaid label.

We also charge outbound shipping separately for same reasons as you and are wondering if it’s refunding the outbound shipping too.

We have had a bunch of returns but only 1 did the refund on scan. The rest have not and we are refunding upon receipt.

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

Anyone making any headway with this or getting an official answer? I spent 2 hours on the phone with a US rep that was actually trying to help, but the call dropped with no resolution…

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

Anyone making any headway with this or getting an official answer? I spent 2 hours on the phone with a US rep that was actually trying to help, but the call dropped with no resolution…

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

I really hope this gets corrected. To protect ourselves, we have had to disable all expedited/express shipping options except the cheapest economy shipping we offer…

I’m really surprised there isn’t more buzz about this on here.

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Seller_oiIfus0KDexMX

I really hope this gets corrected. To protect ourselves, we have had to disable all expedited/express shipping options except the cheapest economy shipping we offer…

I’m really surprised there isn’t more buzz about this on here.

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Seller_piL7iNoHXIzZw

Having the exact same issue here only the safe-t claim denial reason is “Only refunds issued by Amazon to customers are eligible for reimbursement.” which confuses me considering I did not issue the credit (nor would I have issued a credit on the outbound shipping for a buyer-faulted return.) so Amazon must have issued it.

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Seller_piL7iNoHXIzZw

Having the exact same issue here only the safe-t claim denial reason is “Only refunds issued by Amazon to customers are eligible for reimbursement.” which confuses me considering I did not issue the credit (nor would I have issued a credit on the outbound shipping for a buyer-faulted return.) so Amazon must have issued it.

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Seller_mRsMduRL4svMm

Has anyone had any success with getting the shipping refunded when the buyer has used a false return reason? I have one coming back now that claims Inaccurate Website Description, but it isn’t. She simply did not actually read it. One of the plethora of blind bag toys out there and she thought she’d get 24 because there is a picture of all 24 possible items in the listing…yeah, right. For the cost of 1? Sure you did, honey. Our contribution is much clearer and we always put in language, in the title, bullets and description stating 1 piece, but Amazon has not opted to use our contribution. So, do we just get screwed for shipping both ways? probably, but hoping someone else has had some luck fighting back.

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Seller_mRsMduRL4svMm

Has anyone had any success with getting the shipping refunded when the buyer has used a false return reason? I have one coming back now that claims Inaccurate Website Description, but it isn’t. She simply did not actually read it. One of the plethora of blind bag toys out there and she thought she’d get 24 because there is a picture of all 24 possible items in the listing…yeah, right. For the cost of 1? Sure you did, honey. Our contribution is much clearer and we always put in language, in the title, bullets and description stating 1 piece, but Amazon has not opted to use our contribution. So, do we just get screwed for shipping both ways? probably, but hoping someone else has had some luck fighting back.

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Seller_RLzvwbcwCwG3P

Just had my first safe-t claim requesting outbound shipping refunds for buyer faulted return. Says appeal denied already even though I haven’t even appealed it yet.

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Seller_RLzvwbcwCwG3P

Just had my first safe-t claim requesting outbound shipping refunds for buyer faulted return. Says appeal denied already even though I haven’t even appealed it yet.

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